The Study of Racialism

Truffling · New User Joined: 12 Jul 2006 {Posts: 13 }

Has anyone ever posted on the afrolatino.org forum before?

I just want other people's experiences on this forum and to be reassure that I am not being paranoid about the amount of 'Nation of Islam-esque' ramblings I see from posters on that site.

Any time you try and challenge their views or try to put the debate from a different angle you get 'afrocentric' ramblings and ignorant replies.

It's a no win situation there...

oevega · Posted: Sun 16 Jul 2006 02:55 Post subject: Re: Afrolatino.org

Truffling · New User Joined: 12 Jul 2006 {Posts: 13 }

^^^Thank you!

When I went on afrolatino.org (of latino descent myself and wanted to learn more) I was actually expecting to speak to Latinos, but alas it wasn't to be!

I will check ur links out.

Very Happy

Salsassin · Suspended Joined: 04 Apr 2005 {Posts: 3508 }

LOL. I have been banned from that place so many times its hilarious.

Laughing

I am their Kryptonite. Just do a serch fro Salsassin or Otorongo on that board. I got bored because there was nothing new.

http://backintyme.com/odr/viewtopic.php?t=1258

Truffling · New User Joined: 12 Jul 2006 {Posts: 13 }

^^^I know who u are, u congratulated me on my first post lol!

Those people are going to depress themselves into an early death. They talk nothing about the great Latino culture and its contribution to the mainstream. They just whinge and call everyone racists.

oevega · Posted: Sun 16 Jul 2006 04:10 Post subject: Latinos in English

Salsassin · Suspended Joined: 04 Apr 2005 {Posts: 3508 }

http://forums.prospero.com/latcultura/start

oevega · Posted: Sun 16 Jul 2006 04:25 Post subject: Latinos

Salsassin · Suspended Joined: 04 Apr 2005 {Posts: 3508 }

There is no average Latino Omar. There are regional differences. And in many places the poor to lowe middle class do intermix and socialize heavily, but the upper classes are still predominantly of Eurodescent

oevega · Posted: Sun 16 Jul 2006 04:35 Post subject: Class

Salsassin · Suspended Joined: 04 Apr 2005 {Posts: 3508 }

But in many societies they are the ones that determine the labor force and what not. For example, in Peru, it can be very hard to get a job as a salesperson if you look to indigenous or afrodescent.

Truffling · New User Joined: 12 Jul 2006 {Posts: 13 }

Yes often the blacks are left disadvantaged in the Latin world in such a horrible way but at the same time I think afrolatino.org concentrates on this issue to such a level that they disort and exaggerate it and undermine the race relations with the 'race card'. A black cuban and a white cuban will have most things in common in Cuba; it is only when they get to america when the problems begin (often not due to white americans stereotyping the black cuban, but black americans sterotyping the black Cuban!). A white brasillian can appreciate african influence just as much as a black brasillian; african culture is so loved in Brasil.

The 'upper class' may be a necessary evil but they have far too much say in issues that affect people in the country; they have a lot more control than the majority. This leaves the indigenious (sp) and blacks at a disadvantage a lot of the time.

BTW, Omer I would like to add thank you for the links to latina.com. Often I have gone to latino websites and found that it is full of afrocentrics (afro-americans one) trying to convert black latinos to their ideas of race and to 'claim' them. They often hold up the most mixed looking, european friendly mulatto who is proud of her black heritage as an icon to the 'afro movement'. It makes me laugh when they talk about white imperialism and colourism because in those instances they are showing colourism themselves; what about the more african looking latinos who are suffering in the latin world due to their race? Aren't they 'icons' too and to do with the movement? If they are so interested about poor black people why aren't they helping the africans?

When you come down to the crux of these afrocentrics ramblings you often find that many of them are spurned boys who have been knocked back by dominicans, puerto ricans or cubans. Thus, they blame their rejections on 'being black' and call the latinos that spurn them 'white lovers' who have been blinded by white imperialism. There was even an afro-american guy posting on the website on how he got away with 'being a cuban' so he could date latinos 'easier'. LOL, so they talk about black latinos being something they are not but turn around doing the same thing.

I have no problem with black pride; but everyone has the right to celebrate their unique black cultures in their own way without being called a 'coconut'.

Salsassin · Suspended Joined: 04 Apr 2005 {Posts: 3508 }

Truffling · New User Joined: 12 Jul 2006 {Posts: 13 }

^^LOL, sorry I didn't put the right name for the person who sent me the link! It is a very good site anyway (great hair and beauty advice too)!

It is so good that you are proud of who you are; I saw many on afrolatino.org who doubted you (even when they knew u were speaking the truth). I think you were right on one of the reasons you gave; it is because you didn't buy into the black stereotype (ebonics et cetera) if you came on the forum like that you would be welcomed with open arms.

How ironic that they didn't accept you ebcause you come across as a person who is happy and proud of who they are and their heritage (a very exotic one too!).

Salsassin · Suspended Joined: 04 Apr 2005 {Posts: 3508 }

Thanks.

oevega · Posted: Sun 16 Jul 2006 13:00 Post subject: Salesmen

oevega · Posted: Sun 16 Jul 2006 13:31 Post subject: Omar

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BillyMadison79 · Experienced User Joined: 01 Mar 2007 {Posts: 133 }

What happened to the Afrolatino.org forum anyways, why is it locked ?

Salsassin · Suspended Joined: 04 Apr 2005 {Posts: 3508 }