The Study of Racialism

zsana · Moderator Joined: 05 Feb 2005 {Posts: 1013 }

Frenchesmaedl!

Thanks for sharing that link! It just shows what a funny thing memory is! I distinctly remember a more surprised reaction from Nigel. But obviously I was wrong. I think I heard a small gasp from his direction - and he looked like he was bracing himself after saying "not blonde?" but thats it. Actually the camera didn't linger on his reaction at all.

Maybe I was anticipating this reaction from him for some reason, and therefore saw it when I obviously didn't.

Kinda like that study that Frank mentioned about white and black adults claiming they saw the non existent (because of bundling) biracial baby of various IR couples looking "black" or more like the parent of color. That was there expectation. And people see what they believe they're "supposed" to see even when it's not really there.

I think this is often true when it comes to "race".

And Ms. J was all like yeah she's half African. But that's not really true either. He must have been thinking African-American as in ethnicity. Because he's what most people think of when you think of African. Physically I mean. I'm not talking about the way he acts.

That's a topic for another discussion....LOL

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zsana · Moderator Joined: 05 Feb 2005 {Posts: 1013 }

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ImBack · Wizard Joined: 28 Jun 2006 {Posts: 587 }

I think AD is correct about skin color. Thinking back on the issue, I dont recall many people questioning my mother about my being her child. Then again, I am from a liberal part of the united states.

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Otorongo · Experienced User Joined: 28 May 2007 {Posts: 107 }

Seems to be correct. Just checked her biography and it says she has two sons. No mention of a daughter.

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Creole GAL · Experienced User Joined: 12 Mar 2007 {Posts: 183 }

Genes , chromosomes, phenotypes, genetics, Black paternal genes being stronger than White maternal genes, and pictures of people...I have read everyones's post and I am not a geneticists. That is one thing that cannot be debated ,LOL!

I want to answer , just my opinion, no medical or genetical facts.

Eartha Kitt, Victoria Rowell, and Pat Cleveland, all of these ladies have daughter's who look JUST LIKE THEM. Maybe the skin color shade is different, but the facial feartures, face size, expression is all there matching their mothers. People can look like their parents of a different color.

Maternal vs. paternal genes, for every person who is of Blck. mom/Wht. dad, and Wht. mom/Blck.dad, you can find one who looks like the Wht. dad and another who looks like the Blck. dad. I have heard of people in my region say that the Blck.man's gene seems stronger in that the children of Blck. dad/Wht. mom turn out more Black and the Blck.mom/Wht. dad, the kids turn out White. That is only their opinion. No science. I think, THINK it is a toss up and is not a genetical, maternal, paternal thing.

Now, I do believe and know that ones' genetic mix of ethnic diversity makes a difference regardless of what one looks like in skin color or ehtnic group. Ex. some of those you posted-Downtown Julie Brown. She looks Black American. She is British. I believe one of her parents is White British. The Black one might be all Black (from one of Britian's colony's) or mixed too. I do not personally know her so I am assuming and using her as an example of someone we all know from afar. If DJBrown had married a Black man, her child would have been Black. Her child with this White guy cannot help but look like a cross between them both or all like him. No way could the child look all like her. Same for Soldead O'Brien.

Ex. of people I know. I know someone personally who looks Hispanic in other states and Black in N.O. Her mother is a Black looking Creole woman and her father is a White looking Creole man. Her grandparents on both sides are mixed. Grandparents, Great grandparents and beyond around here were too without a doubt, someone was African and then that branch became Octoroon, Quadroon, Mullato,) add in the other people who were pure White French, pure White Spainsh from Spain, Nat.Amer. and here she is today a mutli genetic mixture of at least the minimum of three generations. Her husband is White and the children look White. They are taken as White and live and are listed as White. If the children had looked Black, they could NOT have been for this White man. Impossible. If she had married Black,real Black, not Creole,then the children would have beenBlack. If she had married a Creole genetic
multi- mix up mutt , :-) spread over a few generations like herself,then the kids would have been lil Creole typical looking N.O. kids same as her.

I know of a woman, Creole White looking from a Creole White looking mom and Spainsh Creole looking father, who maried a White guyand the kids are White. They live as go as, go as and identify as White. It would impossible for this girl to have a child with the least tinge of looking Black or even mixed. This girl, like the case I mentioned before is a total mixture over generations.

My point, ethnicity based on how one looks, depends on ones genes , parents and many people have very mixed genes after many generations.

pianoplayer111 · Mentor Joined: 16 May 2007 {Posts: 379 }

Pat Cleveland is gorgeous and her daughter looks like a very sweet person. Both have nearly identical features and bone structure.

I don't see a resemblance between V. Rowell and her daughter Maya at all. Maya has none of her mother's features, IMO.

I had a feeling that the little one in that photo couldn't have possibly been Rae Dawn Chong's biological daughter.

Andrew Waters · Posted: Sat 07 Jul 2007 07:05 Post subject:

My sister-in-law's daughter has the complexion of Chong and her 11 year old daughter looks like the little girl in the photo, blonde hair and blue eyes to go with it.

zsana · Moderator Joined: 05 Feb 2005 {Posts: 1013 }

Trickey Family
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Leila Trickey's children
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Brothers with their babies
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tk101 · Posted: Thu 23 Aug 2007 15:21 Post subject:

i'm new here. Never knew this place existed, but i suppose one can find anything on the net...anyway

who is that mother son combo in the very first pic on the first page?

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tk101 · Posted: Fri 24 Aug 2007 00:37 Post subject:

thanks G-man. thats very interesting charles appears to have no admixture..very interesting